A Special Program on November 16, 2001

“Where Is God?”

Christian:
Here is THE WORD – THE COSMIC WAVE! We warmly greet you in a new roundtable discussion. Today the topic is: “Where Is God?” In the studio I greet Gabriele and Gert, my name is Christian.

People pray to God. Some to Jehovah, others to Allah. In the western world, Christians mostly pray to the God that the churches teach. If we take a look at the world, the question comes up: What has this religious belief in Allah, in Jehovah or in the God taught by the churches accomplished? Is it the fault of the faithful, because they do not pray enough? Or is it the fault of the teachers who proclaim these denominations? Jesus of Nazareth taught to first see the beam in one’s own eye and not look for the splinter in the eye of one’s neighbor. For this reason, we do no want to point our fingers at other religions, but perhaps we should first ask ourselves what was believed and taught in the so-called Christian western world. There, a few centuries after Jesus of Nazareth walked over this Earth, the churches installed themselves as mighty institutions, which with legions of theologians, bishops and cardinals imposed upon the people a structure of dogmas, and which practiced ceremonies and rituals and exercised political power. The church sees itself as the visible part of the Kingdom of God, yes, even as the mysterious body of Christ and as the institution without which a person has no chance to go to God.
A well-known sentence reads: “There is no salvation outside of the church.” According to the opinion of the churches, essential for this salvation is the means to grace offered by them, the so-called sacraments. One of the most important of these is baptism. According to church teachings, the person who does not receive it lives in a state of original sin. If he dies in this state, then he lives eternally separated from God – and this also holds true for unbaptized babies, who according to the teachings of the Church will never see God.
In order to get rid of our sins – as further taught by these churches – one has to make a confession, according to Catholic faith in a confessional, according to the teachings of the Protestant-Lutheran Church, this can also take place in a general public or mutual confession.

The so-called indulgences also play an important role. According to the teachings of these churches, the one who has sinned will be punished by God for this in the worlds beyond. Solely the Church has the authority to remit these punishments. In the year 2000, we experienced that this could happen when someone walked through the gate of absolution in Rome – naturally, donations for these sins and remission of punishments should be helpful for this.
According to church teachings – above all in the sense of Luther – through His death, Jesus of Nazareth already did everything that is necessary for man’s salvation. According to this teaching, a person can do practically nothing for his salvation. Decisive is whether one believes. If one sins nevertheless, this does not have to be a disaster; if it must be – says Luther – sin away bravely, but believe even more bravely.

Gert:
May I interrupt you here, Christian? What you have said here are certain mechanisms which one has to fulfill and which are always related to the Church and which – as far as I can see – are also connected the obligation to make a contribution to the Church for this. What is the whole thing all about anyway? If these teachings, these regulations, are supposed to have a meaning, then they should have led to a positive result. And where can I read the positive effect in all these actions? When I look at the world today, according to what you have said, we should actually be living in a country in which there are no prisons, in which there are no courts, because there is no more strife, in which there are no disputes, in which there are no divorces, in which there is no abuse of children, in which everyone lives in peace and harmony with each other, because the person’s sins have already been taken away by Christ, through His death – as some say– or at least through the rituals and ceremonies that are delivered to the faithful by the Church.

Gabriele:
When I hear this, what Christian presented, and what you said, the following question does come up: Is there a God at all? Because where, in which religion, does God interfere in order to help the people? Whether we call God Allah, or whether we call Him Jehovah, or whether we call God the divine intelligence, or the Eternal One, for everyone, God is ultimately a power that should exist to help the people. Does God exist? Has God helped them? Which teaching? Is the teaching of Islam, for instance, right, the teaching of the Buddhists, the Hindus, the teaching of Christianity, what is right? Actually, as people in the western world who call themselves Christians, we cannot point our finger at others and say: This and this and this teaching is not right; it does not have God. Actually, we should beat on our own breasts in the awareness of what Jesus, the Christ, taught us: “See first the beam in your own eye, before you look for the splinter in the eye of another one.”
And so, it does not help to say that the God of infinity exists solely for us, for us Christians. We have to make an accounting. What has our teaching, the teaching of the western world, the Christian teaching, brought? Which teaching is right? And so, let us look for once at the beam in our own eye.
We say: “We are Christians,” and now we have to ask ourselves: What did Jesus, the Christ, teach 2000 years ago? He walked over this Earth as Jesus of Nazareth. He was and is the teacher of the Sermon on the Mount, of peaceableness. We believe that Jesus, the Christ, is the Redeemer of all people.
Jesus was a simple man. At most, Jesus went into the temple, into a church made of stone, to teach, but not in order to worship God in this church, in the temple.
He taught us: “The Kingdom of God is within, in you.”
And so, we must ask ourselves: Is what the church have made of Jesus, the Christ, the truth? Is it God’s love, the wealth of God? Is it the teaching of the Sermon on the Mount, the teaching of the carpenter, Jesus, or is it the teaching of human beings, who derive their existence from God, who is the truth?
In the last analysis, the central teaching of Jesus, the Christ, is the Sermon on the Mount. If we now go back to Christian’s words, he said that the church sees itself as the Kingdom of God on Earth, as the mysterious body of Christ and the institution without which a person has no chance to go to God. Many are tied to this institution. Are they with God? Or where are they? After 2000 years of Christianity, one should really ask: The many, many people in the Christian western word, who are tied to a church, must they not be in the Kingdom of God?

Christian:
I cannot imagine that God has tied Himself to religions and denominations and that He will help one or another one to prevail. Jesus of Nazareth did not teach this either. You already mentioned that He said that God is within, in us. This indwelling God in us, whom I cannot find in houses made of stone, whom I cannot find in the denominations either or in the corset, in which many church members feel they are stuck. Meanwhile, one speaks of a four-wheeled Christianity: baby carriage, wedding coach, hearse – as we know, all vehicles have four wheels – for many still remain in the Church only because of these rituals. I think that all this has nothing to do with God. Also in the traditional Bible, which you spoke of, Gert, and which was falsified many times over, there is no talk of these dogmas and ceremonies, with which the ecclesiastic institutions try to bind their faithful to themselves.
And so, I think that being bound to denominations does not lead to God. God is the Father of all people and not the God of the denominations.

Gabriele:
We in the western world call ourselves “Christian.” And so, let us again beat on our breasts and ask ourselves: If Jesus taught us peaceableness, if Jesus brought us the Father of love, if Jesus taught us that the Kingdom of God is within, in us, and that the Kingdom of God is love, peace, unity and justice, then we all should ask ourselves – if we, for example, are tied to a church institution and have observed the dogmas and rites of this church, have lived these dogmas and rites – are we with God? Are we peaceable people?

Christian:
Maybe I can report a bit from my own experience: As long as I depended on the church’s so-called means to grace, I rather had the impression that I could actually do anything at all as long as I believed in these dogmas, as long as I followed these rituals and I long as went into a confessional once a year. This seeming security of being close to God when one follows certain rituals makes a person self-righteous.

Gabriele:
So, when people hold to the dogmas and rites, they feel self-righteous. They are tied to the Church; they do what the institution Church taught – Catholic or Lutheran – both call themselves Christian. Now, they have done it or they still do it today, but have they become peaceable? For me, that is the question: If I reach the Kingdom of God via an institution, by doing what the Church teaches: to fulfill the dogmas, to observes the rites, to receive the means to grace, the so-called sacraments, the most important sacrament being baptism, etc. … Have these people become peaceable? If they have become peaceable, then they fulfill the teachings of Jesus, the Christ. And this teaching is love, the love for neighbor; it is unity with man, animal and nature. If this is not so, then this Church, which believes that it represents the Kingdom of God on Earth, does not have God. For it has shut out God, and it shuts out all those who feel that they belong to the Church.

Gert:
One can put the whole thing to a test: How do the people act who have made the strict observance of rites and dogmas an essential part of their lives, and then are led astray to this self-righteousness that you spoke of? This is exactly the root of fundamentalism – in all religions. Fundamentalism claims that that it holds 100% to the outer processes that the respective religious teacher has prescribed. When one looks at the effects of the fundamentalists, then they are the ones who cause these violent wars that we have all over the world today. Everywhere it is fundamentalism that preaches hate and not love, that demands the killing of each and every one of a different faith and whose God – for whom they hold to all their rules – should help solely them to oppress, subjugate and kill other people.

And so, when I confront your question with reality, then I have to say that all those who observe outer dogmas, rites and rules as fundamentalists in great self-righteousness have neither taken the God of love into themselves nor have they lived Him.

Gabriele:
Now I have a question: Who should God support then? Whom should God help? For example, the Church says: “One of the most important sacraments – that is, means to grace – is baptism. The one who does not receive it lives in a state of original sin; when he dies, he lives eternally separated from God.” Jesus never taught such a thing. This is a Church teaching. Jesus said – and this is very important – “Teach first and then baptize.” And so, when Jesus said, “Teach first,” then a person is not baptized from childhood on, but not until he as accepted the teachings of Jesus, the Christ, and actualizes them step by step, or has actualized them. Then he is baptized, because he has become a spiritually high-standing, ethically moral person. That is what Jesus wanted to say with this. But here the teaching of Jesus, the Christ, was totally reversed and integrated into the teachings of the Church. The one who is not baptized lives a state of original sin. Also, the Church says: Baptize first and then teach – but which teaching does the Church then give to the child? It gives it the teaching of the Church, and thus the person is already tied to a church institution.

And then it continues: If he is not baptized and dies, then he dies in a state of original sin – but just a minute here, at the same time the Church teaches that on the cross, Jesus, the Christ, took on all sins. If He took on all sins, then original sin also belongs to this! If He took on all sins, then I don’t have to make a confession; and then no confessionals should be allowed. And then public confessions are not needed either. Jesus did not teach any of this. Did Jesus teach about an auditory confession, where one can say that it is an eavesdropping confession? A confessional – at least I find it so – is like a judge, who passes judgement on a so-called sinner, in that he inflicts penance on him and then gives him absolution. But if the Church does teach that Jesus took on all sins, what do we need the whole thing for anyway?

And then in addition comes – as Christian said – the fact that the so-called indulgences, or remissions of sins, also play an important role. The one who sins will be punished by God for this in the beyond – well, why then? If Jesus already took on all sins? But the Church is authorized to absolve him of these punishments for sin, when the priest himself is a sinner. How can a sinner forgive a sinner for his sins? Jesus taught: “Recognize your sins, repent of them and ask for forgiveness and also forgive your neighbor.” That has nothing to do with a church. And besides that, the Church does not teach the message of Jesus. And I repeat: All sins were taken on by Jesus on the cross. And so, everyone must be without sin. And if each Christian were to be without sin, then each one would be peaceable. Then the Kingdom of God would be here on this Earth. Besides that, Jesus taught: “Go out, teach the people and baptize them in My name.” He did not say, go out and kill them. “Bring them the gospel of peace, of unity, of love, of love for neighbor.”

Gert:
You have pointed out only a few of the contradictions in this structure of dogma. However, these few contradictions already show what it is all about, namely, a very normal religion of priest, who, for their own advantage, have put the faithful into a state of fear and terror and have abused God in the process. It is, just as in all cults of priests – also in the denominations that call themselves Christian – nothing more than a product of the human intellect, in order to secure for those who lead the cult personal, material advantages and the power in the state. The whole thing has something to do with God only insofar as one can threaten the people with Him. And I think that the Catholic denomination has also recognized this, for those contractions that you pointed out do show that of themselves these dogmatic regulations are irresolute and absurd. And then one simply erased this contradiction with the statement that belief is only that which is absurd. And so, in principle, absurdity was declared to be the norm, and with this the people were held on to.
However, why so many people fall for this nonsense is a question that comes up again and again. And this is a question that the one who stays in this structure of dogma because as a child he was simply put into put into it against his will, also must ask himself: At some point I have to decide whether I feel I belong in this structure of dogma or not?”

Christian:
The exercise of power by the churches is engraved deep in people’s souls. When one thinks about the fact that babies must already be baptized so that the parents don’t land in eternal damnation, that leaving the Church is also linked with the threat of eternal damnation, and that through the constant pressure to confess, the faithful are permanently kept on a tight rein, then one can in part explain the churches have been able to bind the people to this absurd creed, as you rightly said.

Gabriele:
When we shed more light on the exercising of power, which we are experiencing more and more, then perhaps this goes back to Luther’s statement: “Sin away bravely, but believe even more bravely.” And so, this means: I believe in God, but I continue to sin. Yet, once more: I continue to sin!
Well, but if Jesus took on all sins, I cannot even sin anymore. Something is not right here.

Gert:
I don’t understand anyway how Luther could say: “Sin away bravely, but believe even more bravely.” For especially the Lutheran Church insists so much on Paul and on the Bible, and didn’t Paul say: “Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow”? What about this statement then? It does mean that when I sin I will also have to bear the effects of my sins.

Christian:
But this is again countered with the teaching that faith helps and that Jesus has already done everything for man’s salvation. One also has to add this – or perhaps not – because according to Lutheran teaching a part of mankind cannot be saved. Luther proclaimed a God who right from the beginning sees the majority of His children going toward eternal damnation, and lets them go into eternal damnation, for Luther denies these people their free will and denies them of the possibility to do anything for their salvation.

Perhaps I may still say something to what you said before, about the saying “sin bravely”: Here and there I have the impression that on the one hand, the churches impose an enormous claim to power on the people, oppress them through their power, by threatening them with eternal punishment for sin if they part company with them, and on the other hand, also try to try oblige them. As long as one remains a member of the Church, they make him believe he can – if he observes these magic rituals – do almost anything at all. Basically it is a mockery of the teaching of Jesus of Nazareth, who said: “Follow Me,” who said: “Love your neighbor as yourself, and: “The one who takes up the sword will perish by the sword,” who spoke of the inner Christianity and who said: “Become perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect.” All this is cut out by an externalized form of Christianity, which is relatively easy to fulfill, but which no longer has anything to do with the teachings of the Nazarene.

Gabriele:
Has already nothing more to do with it! It is merely sad that the Catholic and Lutheran Churches use the word Christian. If they would call themselves Catholic or Lutheran, that is right, but it has nothing to do with Christianity.
And so, one must actually ask the question:
Does God exist, or where is God? For all that we should take into our accounting should continue, in order to ask: Where is God? Does God exist? Whom is God for? In the Catholic world, the worship of Mary plays an important role. Mary is considered to be the Mother of God, who helps people in distress, when they go on pilgrimages, when they take vows, pray the rosary, and so on. There is a lot of praying, especially by the ordinary faithful – there is lots and lots of praying going on. Well, God should intervene at some point and say: Your prayers are welcome. I help all of mankind through you. Through you I work in this mankind and through you I bring mankind strength and life. – It doesn't work.
For it is said: “The one who confesses in time can reckon that after his death and after some time in the so-called purgatory, a kind of pre-hell, he will physically resurrect on the Day of Judgment.” With this physical resurrection, does one mean the resurrection of the flesh and blood? If yes, flesh and blood cannot be in heaven, for God is spirit and the beings of the spirit are from His Spirit.
And did Jesus, the Christ, talk about a purgatory, a pre-hell? Or, for example, did Jesus, the Christ, install an infallible pope, who calls himself the representative of God and Holy Father? Where Jesus said, “There is only one Holy One and one Father, who is in heaven.” Well, if there is only one Holy One, what do we need all those saints for? If there is only one Father, who is in heaven, why then the Holy Father on Earth? And for many, many years the pope has given the blessing Urbi et Orbi – what has this blessing accomplished? On St. Peter’s Square, there are many thousands of people who receive the blessing every year. And the Christian western world receives the Urbi et Orbi blessing via television, via radio. What has all this accomplished? After the blessing they make the sign of the cross on their forehead or breast. And what has this accomplished?

Gert:
One can generally say, nothing at all. This whole fuss and bother that is going on there does, however, have a goal. I think that those who put it on know precisely that it has nothing to do with what Jesus, the Christ, taught and lived, namely, the peaceful living together of people, of nature and the environment. And so, they have something else as a goal, namely, the goal of influencing people to think as they want them to.

When I let everything that you have now said pass by me in review, then this structure of dogma does have only one goal: It incapacitates one; it takes away from him the responsibility for his own actions, that is, his self-responsibility, and leaves it to the priest to decide whether the faithful one receives salvation after his death or not.

Gabriele:
What you say is right, but then why aren’t things getting better in the world? Why, when the priest can remit your sins, why is Christianity then not going upwards? This means why does God not stand behind this Christianity and shows those of another faith that God is with the Christians? Where then is He with the Christians? Where is Jesus, the Christ, with the Christians in the western world?

Gert:
At the beginning, as a criterion for the genuine belief in God, you asked the question: Have the people become more peaceful? When we look at our world, then we see that we do not have inner peace due to denominational influence – neither in the family, nor in the towns or in the states – nor do we have outer peace. As a result of this structure of dogma and the denominational influence on the people, the people are without peace. They fight with each other on a small scale and also on a large scale. And when we look into the world: everywhere, war and terror.

I think that is the reason why a God, a loving God, like the God who Jesus, the Christ, brought us, cannot stand by those who act this way and also cannot help that they reach their goals. Even when superficially a small advantage for one or the other may appear, the advantage does not last long.

Christian:
But if God is apparently not to be found in these confessions and these rituals – for the sentence “You shall recognize them by their fruits” holds true –, if He cannot be found there, then the question arises, which logical step is to be take due to this?
I have taken the step for myself, in that I have separated myself from an institution that merely pretended to act as an intermediary to God, but in reality only brought outer rituals. In this connection, I reminded myself of a sentence in the Apocalypse of John, which reads: “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins.” This sentence was directed at the whore of Babylon, at a power apparatus that linked spirituality with politics, just as the churches do. I understood the sentence, “Come out of her, my people,” as follows: Officially leave an institution that leads you away from God more that it leads you to Him. And I have the impression that more and more people are also taking this step. Hundreds of thousands – at least in Germany – are leaving this institution every year and are seeking God in their inner being. They continue to pray to God, but without the Church.

It is a basic error that the Churches made the people believe that membership in the Church and belief in God are inseparably linked with each other. It is a conjuring trick, when they pretend to the people that only those who are members of the Church are also Christians. We heard before that the Churches have betrayed Christianity, so that the one who wants to be a Christian, in the spirit of the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, should separate himself from these institutions and directly follow the teachings of the Nazarene.

Gabriele:
For Jesus said: “Follow Me!” Jesus did not put any person into a church institution, for in essence He also said: “The Spirit of God does not dwell in temples made of stone.” Well, then where does the Spirit of God dwell, if He does not dwell in temples of stone? For, in the last analysis, He dwells in each person, in each soul.

God is the omnipresence and the love, which lives equally in nature, in each animal, in each stone, because God is life and nothing can exist without God, who is the life. The life, which is God, has laws of love. We human beings have excerpts from the great all-encompassing law of love, which again is God. We received the Ten Commandments from God via Moses. From Jesus, the Christ, we received the central teaching of the law of love, the Sermon on the Mount. And now, do let all of us who call ourselves “Christian” ask ourselves: Do we live according to the commandments of God and according to the central teaching of Jesus, the Christ, according to the Sermon on the Mount?

If we do not do this, then we cannot expect that God will help us, nor can we expect that the eternal Spirit of love will help a belligerent western world which does not put the sword back in its place, that is, does not take it back, which does not turn weapons into plowshares, but spreads them, fights with them and slaughters others, etc. We say that we have to fight against our enemies. But Jesus said: “Love your enemies! Do good to those who hate you!” How would things be now if over the past 2000 years we had practiced this central teaching, which is also anchored in the Sermon on the Mount? To love our enemies and do good to our enemies. How would things be today if we had made our weapons into plowshares, if we had given back our swords, if we had lived this peaceableness and done good to our enemies? Where would we be today? Would God then be with us?

Christian:
The world would look completely different today. God would actually be with us and, with His help, we would not have plunged the world into this chaos that it is in today. With His help, we would not have brought so much hate and suffering into this world. We would not only have treated our fellow man differently, we would have also treated the animals differently. The teaching, which in the so-called Christian western world is seen as Christian, not only justified slavery and also justified disdain for the animals. It led to mass murder, among people and against the animals, that has lasted for thousands of years. All these things are the fruits of a teaching that has nothing to do with the teachings of the Nazarene.

Gert:
But this teaching has already been disproved in one point today. This teaching insists that it administrates God and that God, if at all, last spoke through Jesus, the Christ. And that is also a part of the false teaching, to believe that one can obligate God to be silent. This God cannot be limited or administrated by an institution.

We have spoken a lot today about the Sermon on the Mount, which is based on the Ten Commandments of God through Moses, but today we also have the word of God alive among us, namely, through Gabriele, who is sitting at the table with us today. We have entitled our program: “Where is God.” – You have said that the spark of God is within, in each one of us and that we can find Him there. But we can also hear Him. Since more than 25 years, the one who wants to can again today take in the word of God in all its detail through countless revelations, through teaching hours and many books. And this shows me that the question “Where is God” can be easily answered. One can find Him easily, if one wants to, but one must first make clear to himself that those who claim that they administrate God for this Earth or even raise themselves to be His representative, that with the term “God,” they mean something entirely different. They cling to someone, but this God, whom they cling to, has nothing to do with the kind and loving God, whom Jesus, the Christ, brought us and whom is also brought closer to us in our time over and over again through the prophet word.

Gabriele:
But we should also become aware that God is a God of freedom. And He breathed freedom into each person, into each being. This means that each one can do what he wants, but he, himself, is responsible for his actions, according to the law: “What a person sows is what he will reap.” Even though we have heard God through the prophets and still hear Him today, God leaves us absolute freedom as to whether we do what we have heard, what He has spoken to us, that is, actualize it, or whether we do not fulfill it. What Jesus, the Christ, taught us 2000 years ago is a gift of love. Whether we accept it or not is left up to us, because we bear freedom within ourselves, but are therefore responsible for how we behave – for our thinking, speaking and acting.

At the end of the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus essentially said: The one who hears these teachings of mine and does them is a wise man who builds his house on rock. The one who hears these teachings of mine and does not do them builds his house on sand. When the storm comes it will fall like a house of cards, so to speak.

Here, too, He left us our freedom to do His teachings or not, to apply them or to leave them. And it is also this way through the word of God through all prophets. God gives the truth; God gives the life force; but the one who scorns them bears the responsibility for this. And thus, after 2000 years we are in the dilemma – as is every single Christian – what he has sown, he will reap. And then the Church says, for example: “Well, where is the grace then, God is the grace and the love!” That’s right; God is the grace and the love in the saying “What a person sows is what he will reap.” For when a person compares his thinking, speaking and doing with the Ten Commandments of God and the Sermon on the Mount of Jesus, and then says to himself: “I am wrong in this point; I am sinning against the God of love,” and then repents of this from his heart and perhaps makes good what he has caused, he receives the grace, which is the help to no longer do the same and similar things.

In my opinion, the teaching of Jesus, the Christ, is a simple teaching, just as Jesus Himself was, a carpenter, plain and simple. And this is precisely what is ingenious. The plain and simple teaching is ingenious. And just as ingenious is God, the genius, the great infinite One, who has nothing to do with our small-minded way of thinking. He gives us the laws of love and thus, also the excerpts, the Ten Commandments of God and the Sermon on the Mount of Jesus, and says: “So, there you have it. If you live accordingly, then I Am with you. If you reject it, then you will go under with your high-handedness.” – And where do we stand after 2000 years?

Is the western world, which calls itself Christian, coming to an end? It is in the process, but Jesus, the Christ, is not. He will resurrect in those people who follow His teachings step by step. That will not be many, but the few will be with Christ. And God, the eternal Spirit in Christ, will win back this mighty, beautiful Earth. The unbelieving, also in Christianity – I don't even want to think of the other religions now – the unbelieving Christian, who calls himself a Christian and does not do what Jesus taught, will not rescue this Earth, also especially not through fighting, through terror, through bombs and the like. He will not rescue it; he will go under with this world, which has nothing to do with the Earth. The one who ruined the Earth will not rescue it.

It the Bible it says, in essence: The one who digs pits for others falls into them himself. Now Christendom has to ask itself: How many pits has it already dug for others?

Christian:
And above all, the Churches have to ask themselves this question when they look back at their history. One has to say that these pits are often filled with blood. Millions and millions of people have found death in these pits. But when the Churches take seriously what Paul, whom they think the world of, said, then they must actually reckon that all that they have done to others will come back to them.

Gabriele:
Another question comes up here – here I am thinking only of Christianity. I do not want to say anything about the other religions. We have to ask ourselves: Who has the right to take the life of another? Who can give breath to a person? Can a human being give the breath back to a dead person? If not, then he cannot create life either, for the breath is life. And when we say: “Well, life is created at the time of procreation and the person breathes after he is born,” then we have to ask ourselves: When we give life to a developing human being through procreation, that is, the breath, why then can we not breathe breath into a dead person? God is life. and the soul, which implants itself into a newborn, bears the life and the breath of God. With the baby’s first cry, this breath of God goes into the person’s breath, so that the person is able to breathe in the temporal, but the breath is the life, the breath of God.

When the soul leaves the body of a human being, that is, when the person is dead, the soul leaves the body and takes the breath, that is, the breath of God, with it again. Can we pull back a soul and stick it into the body again? No. Can we give life to a dead person? No! We cannot give breath to any child. The breath for this Earth is brought by the soul into the body of the child. With the first cry of the newborn, the Spirit of God, who is the life, breathes through soul and body.
Let us remember how important it is that the first cry of a newborn baby take place. Why then? Because then God breathes through the body. And we simply take the right to kill a body, in which the life is, that is, to take the life of a human being. Is this in accordance with the teachings of Jesus, the Christ?

Christian:
The Early Christians still knew what you just said. In the 3rd century after Christ, the early Christian teacher Origines taught that the soul already exists before its embodiment, that the breath of God is what vivifies the body. Then through a council it was decided, at the beginning of the 6th century, that this teaching is damned. But why? This teaching is the prerequisite for the assumption that we can incarnate often, because the soul exists before as well as after our physical and earthly existence. The Church damned this prerequisite for the teaching of reincarnation, thus attaining a new means to power, in that it said: “The soul emerges with the birth of the person,” and it has 60 or 70 years to decide about its salvation, and not more – namely, only this one existence on Earth. And only when in the course of this existence, it holds to our dogmas and rituals does it have a chance to enter into the eternal bliss.

Gabriele:
Basically, the Earth is a place of grace of God for all people, for – just as you said – the soul can incarnate often, in order, on the place of grace, the Earth, to recognize and clear up what it inflicted upon itself in previous incarnations. It does not have to expiate everything immediately, on the place of grace it can recognize every day what its causes are. A person has feelings. A person has thoughts. A person has encounters with other people. Every day, each one is given the opportunity to recognize in time his acting, his thinking and speaking and doing that is against the commandments of God and the Sermon on the Mount of Jesus and, with the help of the inner Spirit, the Spirit of love, to feel remorse for it and to clear it up. And the power of grace helps him to no longer commit these sins, these wrongdoings, against the love of God.

But we have made a place of fear, of illness, suffering, infirmity and much more out of the Earth. This Earth is in truth a place of grace. The one who does not want to recognize this stands under the power of sin.

I want to go back to the breath of God once more. Animals also have the breath of God, for they breathe. Are we allowed to kill an animal deliberately? Can we breathe the breath of God into an animal? No! And so, we do not have the right to kill an animal deliberately. And now the question arises: Can we create an ear of grain, which bears the kernels of grain? No! Are we then allowed to put our excrements on the soil, solid and liquid manures, to kill microbes, to poison the fruits, thus damaging the Earth, are we allowed to do this? We simply take the right to do it and do it. That we will then, however, have to expiate for this, that we will have to endure illness and the like for this, we simply accept. But we do not have to endure this. We could be healthy and happy. We could live on a blossoming Earth, if we would only do what Jesus, the Christ, taught us.

Dear listeners, where is God? In you. In us. In you, dear brother, dear sister, in me. God is close to us. And each one of us is the temple of God. The one who cleanses it through the step by step fulfillment of the Ten Commandments of God and the teachings of Jesus, the Christ, feels God in himself. He feels that God is the love. Try it out! Try to measure your thinking, speaking and acting against the commandments of God and the Sermon on the Mount of Jesus! And when you notice that you violate, or have violated, these wonderful spiritual principles of life, go into prayer – God is in you. Enter into your temple and pray within to Jesus, the Christ, who dwells in you. Ask for support and help, and you will receive the help to make amends for the sins, the wrong attitudes against God. Through a deep prayer, awakens remorse toward what you have thought or done. Then you will repent of this from your heart and with the help of God’s love and grace, you will clear up what is against the love of God. And you will also make good for what you have done against the love of God. And you will receive the help and the strength not to do the same and similar things anymore.
And then look at yourself. From within yourself, you will become another person, a peaceable person, who understands the spirit of the teachings of Jesus, the Christ, and who in time immerses into the fullness of the love, into the Kingdom of God, which is within, in each one of us. And then you will also understand what “The one who hears My teachings and does them is a wise man” means.

Christian:
Dear listeners, our initial question was: Where is God?
I think that the answer to this question was made clear in Gabriele’s words. I do not want to add anything more.

We thank you, dear listeners, for your attention.

 

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